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2 - BF - Installation

Haas Bar Feeder - Service Manual


  • 1 - BF - Introduction
  • 2 - BF - Installation
  • 3 - BF - Operation
  • 4 - BF - Push Rod and Drive Belt
  • 5 - BF - Maintenance
  • 6 - BF - Troubleshooting

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  • 2.1 NGC - Installation
  • 2.2 Classic Haas Control - Installation
  • 2.3 Haas Bar Feeder CHC to NGC Conversion
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Haas Bar Feeder - Installation - NGC


AD0406

Applies to machines built from: June, 2017

Introduction

The Haas Bar Feeder is for ST10/15/20/25/30/35 and DS-30 lathes.

It is not for ST-30/35 or DS-30 lathes with a gearbox.

This procedure tells you how to install a bar feeder that was made after June, 2017. If you have CHC machine please follow the procedure below.

Haas Bar Feeder - Installation - CHC
Machine Compatibility:
Product Software Version I/O PCB Axis Motor Type Factory Setting 13.116 BF-Axis Encoder Type
Haas Bar Feeder 100.17.000.2030 or higher 34-308xC
34-3490x with TC PCB (93-32-5502)
Sigma - 5 7
Haas Bar Feeder V2 100.17.000.2030 or higher 34-308xC
34-3490x with TC PCB (93-32-5502)
Sigma - 7
Note: This motor has a blue line on the back of the encoder housing.
8  
 
  • Download the latest configuration files to make sure Factory Setting 13.116 BF-AXIS ENCODER TYPE appears on the the factory setting tab.
  • Update the I/O Main and TC firmware version to the latest. Refer to Next Generation Control - I/O PCB Main Firmware - Update for the latest firmware for the machines I/O  & TC PCB part number.
  • Haas Bar Feeder installation kit
  • ST-10/15/20/25/30/35 NGC lathes built after Jan 14, 2019 are equipped with I/O PCB (34-3490B).  This I/O PCB does not have the circuitry to power the Bar feeder DC motor. Bar feeders built after Jan 14, 2019 will have a tool changer PCB kit included in the bar feeder electrical installation kit.   If you receive a bar feeder that does not have the tool changer PCB kit you need to order P/N: (93-32-5502)
  • Liner guide adapter kit
  • USB Service Key
  • ST-10/10L/10Y/10LY machines built after April 4, 2022 can order an Extended Liner System Kit to allow the Bar Feeder to take longer stock. 

 Note: Do not remove the red shipping brackets before the bar feeder installation.

 Note: Do not discard the anchor kit.

Haas Bar Feeder - Installation

1

Press [POWER OFF] on the lathe.

Set the main circuit breaker to the OFF position.

Lock the main circuit breaker. Use an approved lock with an approved safety tag.

If the lathe is an ST-35, or if the machine was made before 11/1/2015, install the coolant collector extension [1] onto the lathe.

Attach the spindle liner adapter [2] to the spindle. Refer to Lathe - Extruded Spindle Liner - Adaptor Kit - Installation. If the lathe is an ST-35, refer to Lathe - ST-30/30Y Big Bore, ST-35/35Y - Spindle Liner Kit - Installation.

2

Put the bar feeder adjacent to the lathe.

Make sure the frame ends [1] are parallel to the front [2] of the lathe.

Remove the shipping brackets [3] from the frame of the bar feeder.

3

Pull the bar feeder [1] forward until it locks into position.

Find the end of the bar feeder [2].

If the lathe is an ST-35, find the end of the coolant-collector extension [3].

If the lathe is an ST-10, ST-15, ST-20, ST-25, ST-30, or DS-30, find the edge of the coolant collector.

Make sure that the space [4] between them is approximately 0.50" (13 mm).

4

Find the (4) height adjustment screws [1].

Turn the screws [3] until the frame is 2.0" (51 mm) [2] above the floor [4].

Haas Bar Feeder - Electrical Installation

1

Find the access door [2] at the bottom of the control cabinet [1].

Open the access door.

Install the conduit bracket [3] to the bottom of the control cabinet.

Use (2) screws to attach the bracket.

2

Find the cable conduit [2] under the bar feeder.

Put the cable conduit through the hole [1] in the side of the lathe enclosure.

 Note: Some lathes do not have the hole. If the lathe does not have a hole, make one with a 2.0" (51 mm) hole saw. No hole is necessary for the ST-10.

Put the conduit through the conduit bracket [3].

Push the conduit [5] up through the cable exit [4] in the bottom of the control cabinet.

3

Open the control cabinet.

 Danger: If the voltage indicator light is on, do not touch the electrical components. The high voltage in the control cabinet can kill you. Wait for the voltage indicator LED to go off fully.

Find the location on the amplifier bank that has the "BAR FEEDER /W AXIS" label [1].

Install the 30-Amp servo amplifier [2], included with the bar feeder, into that location.

4

Find the (3) bar feeder power wires that come through the conduit.

Connect the power wires to the high voltage terminals:

  • red to RED [1]
  • white to WHT [2]
  • black to BLK [3]

Connect the ground wire [4] to the bracket for the amplifier fan.

Find the high-voltage terminals [5] on the nearest amplifier.

Find the high-voltage terminals [7] on the bar feeder 30-Amp amplifier.

Install the jumpers [6] from the installation kit between these terminals.

Connect the black wire to -H.V. Connect the red wire to +H.V.

Install a ferrite filter P/N 64-1252 bead around the red, white, black cables going to the bar feeder motor.

 

5

Connect the current command cable, included with the bar feeder, to the connector [1] at the top of the amplifier.

Connect the other end of the cable:

  • Connect to channel 10 (P10) [2] on the Maincon PCB.

Find the servo motor encoder cable in the conduit.

Connect the servo encoder cable:

  • Connect to channel 10 (P26) [3] on the Maincon PCB.

6

For Lathes equipped with the 34-348xA, 34-348xC  I/O PCB:

Connect these cables from the conduit to the I/O PCB:

  • Cable 200 to P62 [1]
  • Cable BF Input to P59[2] Install a ferrite filter P/N 64-1252 bead around the cable at the I/O board.
  • Cable 810 to P58 [3] 

For Lathes equipped with the 34-349x

  • Cable 200 to P62 [1]
  • Cable BF Input to P59[2] Install a ferrite filter P/N 64-1252 bead around the cable at the I/O board.

7

For Lathes equipped with the 34-349x I/O PCB:

 Note:  Bar Feeders built after January 14, 2019 will have a Tool Changer PCB kit included in the electrical kit.

  • Install the TC PCB on the standoffs.
  • Connect cable P/N 33-0413 from J1 [2] on the TC PCB to P74 [3] on the I/O PCB.
  • Connect cable P/N 33-0412 from P55A [4] on the TC PCB to P55 [5] on the I/O PCB.
  • Connect cable P/N 33-0349 from P4 on PSUP PCB to the P55 [7] on the TC PCB.
  • Connect the bar feeder cable to P58 [6].

Note: If the machine generates multiple Alarm 20014.1 SIO TOOL CHANGER PCB IS NOT PRESENT and 20014.0 SIO TOOL CHANGER PCB PRESENT after the I/O TC PCB is installed. The I/O or TC PCB firmware is outdated. Update I/O Main and TC firmware version to the latest.  Refer to Next Generation Control - I/O PCB Main Firmware - Update.

Enable Bar Feeder

1

Set the main circuit breaker to the ON position. Press [POWER ON].

Find the "Parameters" decal on the right rear panel of the bar feeder. Use a Service Key to set this parameter in the Factory parameter tab:

  • Set parameter 13.078  BF TOOL CHANGE OFFSET. (Units are in millimeters)
  • Set parameter 13.116 BF-AXIS ENCODER TYPE to the correct value.  See the compatibility table for the correct value.

Activate the bar feeder in the Settings page:

  • Change setting 336  Bar Feeder Enabled, to ON.

Zero return the machine.

Haas Bar Feeder - Alignment

1

Look at the transfer table [1] on the bar feeder.

The groove in the transfer table aligns with the spindle adaptor.

Tap the frame ends [2] with a rubber mallet [3] to move the bar feeder.

2

Press [EMERGENCY STOP].

Turn the adjustment wheel [3] for the transfer table until the table is at the bottom.

Install the 0.75" push rod [2] on the push rod assembly [1].

Refer to the Operator's Manual for instructions to install the push rod.

3

Remove the left-hand rack for the spindle liners.

Remove the sticker [3] from the socket hole [4] on the bar feeder.

Put the sticker above the socket hole.

Find the (8) cart screws [5].

Each side of the bar feeder has (4) screws.

Loosen the (8) screws.

Put the adjustment tool [2] into the socket.

4

Release the [EMERGENCY STOP].

Press [RESET] to stop each alarm.

Press [RECOVER] to enter the bar feeder recovery mode:

Press [F2] to load the push rod.

The pusher clears the tray then the push rod assembly moves down.

Press [EMERGENCY STOP].

Use your hand to move the push rod actuator [1] toward the lathe.

Use the adjustment tool [3] to move the bar feeder [2] up or down until the push rod can go into the liner adaptor.

Perform the Haas Bar Feeder - Push Rod Alignment procedure.

5

Make sure the enclosure [1] is level to the ground.

Tighten the (8) cart screws [2].

Remove the adjustment tool.

Replace the racks for the spindle liners.

Find the (4) height adjustment screws [3].

6

Look at where the push rod [2] goes into the spindle adapter [1].

Turn the (4) height adjustment screws until the center of the push rod aligns with the center of the adapter.

Look at where the push rod [4] goes out of the spindle [3].

Turn the (4) height adjustment screws until the center of the push rod aligns with the center of the spindle.

 Note: Gravity pulls the end of the push rod down a small distance.

Tap the frame ends with a rubber mallet to move the bar feeder from side-to-side, if necessary.

Return the push rod to its home position.

7

Step on the release pedal.

Push the bar feeder backward to the end of its travel.

If the bar feeder is correctly leveled, the gas shock holds the bar feeder in the rear location.

If the bar feeder must be aligned, adjust the rear feet until the bar feeder smoothly locks in the forward position and moves fully backward.

Haas Bar Feeder - Anchor Instructions

1

Turn the rear feet [1] until they are parallel to the bottom rails, as shown.

The front feet [2] must remain perpendicular to the bottom rails, as shown.

2

Use a pen [1] to put a mark on the floor at the location of each foot.

 Note: Turn the feet to the sides of the bar feeder to avoid a tripping hazard.

Drill [2] a Ø 0.50" (13 mm) hole in each mark.

Drill the hole to a depth of 3.5" (89 mm).

3

Put a washer and a nut on the bolt [1].

Put the foot over the hole .  Put the anchor into the hole.

Use a hammer [2] to tap the anchor.

Tap the anchor [3] until it is at the bottom of the hole.

Torque each nut [4] to 55 ft-lb (75 Nm).

Haas Bar Feeder - Calibration Instructions

Perform this procedure one time at installation. The Run/Setup Key Switch must be in Setup Mode to calibrate the EOB Switch.

1

Press [RECOVERY] button to enter the bar feeder recovery mode.

Place a precision ground calibration bar with a known length on the charging table.

Press [ORIGIN], type in the length of the calibration bar and press [ENTER].

The pusher clears the tray then loads the calibration bar. It will then measure the length of the bar and apply the calibration.

Remove and properly store the calibration bar for future use. A bar feeder only needs calibration at installation, or if the EOB sensor, home switch, or trolley are disassembled or replaced.

Note: If the message No Material Found is displayed when the bar is pushed towards the spindle passed the EOB sensor during calibration. Update the I/O Main and TC firmware version to the latest. Refer to Next Generation Control - I/O PCB Main Firmware - Update for the latest firmware for the machines I/O  & TC PCB part number.

2

The bar feeder installation is complete. Refer to the Haas Bar Feeder - NGC Lathe Setup procedure to setup the bar feeder.

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Haas Bar Feeder - Installation - CHC


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Applies to machines built from: April, 2015 to May, 2017

Introduction

The Haas Bar Feeder is for ST10/15/20/25/30/35 and DS-30 lathes. It is not for ST-30/35 or DS-30 lathes with a gearbox. This procedure tells you how to install a bar feeder that was made after April, 2015 until May, 2017.

Prerequisites
  • Lathe software 11.22A or higher
  • Haas Bar Feeder installation kit
  • Liner guide adapter kit
  • Latest version of the Parameter Checker Program

 Note: Do not remove the red shipping brackets before the bar feeder installation.

 Note: Do not discard the anchor kit.

Haas Bar Feeder - Installation

1

Press [POWER OFF] on the lathe.

Set the main circuit breaker to the OFF position.

Lock the main circuit breaker. Use an approved lock with an approved safety tag.

If the lathe is an ST-35, or if the machine was made before 11/1/2015, install the coolant collector extension [1] onto the lathe.

Attach the spindle liner adapter [2] to the spindle. Refer to Lathe - Extruded Spindle Liner - Adaptor Kit - Installation. If the lathe is an ST-35, refer to Lathe - ST-30/30Y Big Bore, ST-35/35Y - Spindle Liner Kit - Installation.

2

Put the bar feeder adjacent to the lathe.

Make sure the frame ends [1] are parallel to the front [2] of the lathe.

Remove the shipping brackets [3] from the frame of the bar feeder.

3

Pull the bar feeder [1] forward until it locks into position.

Find the end of the bar feeder [2].

If the lathe is an ST-35, find the end of the coolant-collector extension [3].

If the lathe is an ST-10, ST-15, ST-20, ST-25, ST-30, or DS-30, find the edge of the coolant collector.

Make sure that the space [4] between them is approximately 0.50" (13 mm).

4

Find the (4) height adjustment screws [1].

Turn the screws [3] until the frame is 2.0" (51 mm) [2] above the floor [4].

Haas Bar Feeder - Electrical Installation

1

Find the access door [2] at the bottom of the control cabinet [1].

Open the access door.

Install the conduit bracket [3] to the bottom of the control cabinet.

Use (2) screws to attach the bracket.

2

Find the cable conduit [2] under the bar feeder.

Put the cable conduit through the hole [1] in the side of the lathe enclosure.

 Note: Some lathes do not have the hole. If the lathe does not have a hole, make one with a 2.0" (51 mm) hole saw. No hole is necessary for the ST-10.

Put the conduit through the conduit bracket [3].

Push the conduit [5] up through the cable exit [4] in the bottom of the control cabinet.

3

Open the control cabinet.

 Danger: If the voltage indicator light is on, do not touch the electrical components. The high voltage in the control cabinet can kill you. Wait for the voltage indicator LED to go off fully.

Find the location on the amplifier bank that has the "BAR FEEDER /W AXIS" label [1].

Install the 30-Amp servo amplifier [2], included with the bar feeder, into that location.

4

Find the (3) bar feeder power wires that come through the conduit.

Connect the power wires to the high voltage terminals:

  • red to RED [1]
  • white to WHT [2]
  • black to BLK [3]

Connect the ground wire [4] to the bracket for the amplifier fan.

Find the high-voltage terminals [5] on the nearest amplifier.

Find the high-voltage terminals [7] on the bar feeder 30-Amp amplifier.

Install the jumpers [6] from the installation kit between these terminals.

Connect the black wire to -H.V. Connect the red wire to +H.V.

5

Connect the current command cable, included with the bar feeder, to the connector [1] at the top of the amplifier.

Connect the other end of the cable:

  • If the machine has a Y Axis, connect to P2 [2] on the Mocon PCB.
  • If the machine does not have a Y Axis, connect to P3 [3] on the Maincon PCB.

6

Find cable 90C in the conduit.

Connect cable 90C to P13 [1] on the PSUP PCB.

Install the cover for the PSUP PCB.

Find the servo motor cable in the conduit.

Connect the servo motor cable:

  • If the machine has a Y Axis, connect to P6 [2] on the Mocon PCB
  • If the machine does not have a Y Axis, connect to P7 [3] on the Maincon PCB

7

Connect these cables from the conduit to the I/O PCB:

  • Cable 200 long lead connector [1] to P35
  • Cable 240 to P21 [2]
  • Cable 440 to P24 [3]
  • Cable 810 to P59 [4]

Haas Barfeeder Configured for NGC

Do this section if your Haas Bar Feeder is configured for a Next Generation Control, if not skip this section.

1

Locate adapter P/N 33-5712A that came with the NGC Haas Bar Feeder, or that came with the 93-3500 service kit.

Connect the Bar Feeder Inputs cable P/N 32-5715 to the NGC to CHC adapter P/N 33-5712A.

Connect the End of Bar Sensor cable P/N 32-7465 to the NGC to CHC adapter P/N 32-5712A.

Connect the NGC to CHC adapter P/N 32-5712A to I/O PCB P24, P21, P35.

Connect dc motor cable P/N 33-2017 to I/O PCB P59.

Haas Bar Feeder - Alignment

1

Look at the transfer table [1] on the bar feeder.

The groove in the transfer table aligns with the spindle adaptor.

Tap the frame ends [2] with a rubber mallet [3] to move the bar feeder.

2

Set the main circuit breaker to the ON position. Press [POWER ON].

The end of bar switch is calibrated at the factory. It is not necessary to run the G105 Q5 command.

Make sure to set these parameters.

  • Set parameter 734:30  BRFEED SP LK/SB EOB to 1.
  • Set parameter 390:3  V AXIS DISABLED to 0.

Press [PARAM/DGNOS]. Find the "Parameters" decal on the right rear panel of the bar feeder. Set these parameters to the values on the decal:

  • Parameter 415  TOOL CHANGE OFFSET
  • Parameter 611  BAR FEEDER TYPE
  • If you have software 11.25A or higher, do not use the value for parameter 409 from the decal.
    • Set parameter 409  V GRID OFFSET to -9000.
    • Set parameter 1119  V AXIS ZERO RETURN METHOD to 6.
  • If you have software 11.24 and lower, do not use the value for parameter 409 from the decal.
    • To set parameter 409 V GRID OFFSET do the Axis Grid Offset - Mill 13.14 or Higher and Lathe 6.11 or Higher procedure for the V-Axis.
    • Set parameter 1119  V AXIS ZERO RETURN METHOD to 0.

Make sure the values are correct for the other parameters. Use the Parameter Checker Program - Menu Option (7).

3

Operate this code in MDI mode:

G105 Q6

The push rod assembly [1] moves up.

Press [EMERGENCY STOP].

Install the 0.75" push rod [2].

Refer to the operator's manual for instructions to install the push rod.

Turn the adjustment wheel [3] for the transfer table until the table is at the bottom.

4

Remove the left-hand rack for the spindle liners.

Remove the sticker [3] from the socket hole [4] on the bar feeder.

Put the sticker above the socket hole.

Find the (8) cart screws [5].

Each side of the bar feeder has (4) screws.

Loosen the (8) screws.

Put the adjustment tool [2] into the socket.

5

Release the [EMERGENCY STOP].

Press [RESET] to stop each alarm.

Operate this code in MDI mode:

G105 Q7

The push rod assembly moves down.

Press [EMERGENCY STOP].

Use your hand to move the push rod actuator [1] toward the lathe.

Use the adjustment tool [3] to move the bar feeder [2] up or down until the push rod can go into the liner adaptor.

6

Make sure the enclosure [1] is level to the ground.

Tighten the (8) cart screws [2].

Remove the adjustment tool.

Replace the racks for the spindle liners.

Find the (4) height adjustment screws [3].

7

Look at where the push rod [2] goes into the spindle adapter [1].

Turn the (4) height adjustment screws until the center of the push rod aligns with the center of the adapter.

Look at where the push rod [4] goes out of the spindle [3].

Turn the (4) height adjustment screws until the center of the push rod aligns with the center of the spindle.

 Note: Gravity pulls the end of the push rod down a small distance.

Tap the frame ends with a rubber mallet to move the bar feeder from side-to-side, if necessary.

Return the push rod to its home position.

8

Step on the release pedal.

Push the bar feeder backward to the end of its travel.

If the bar feeder is correctly leveled, the gas shock holds the bar feeder in the rear location.

If the bar feeder must be aligned, adjust the rear feet until the bar feeder smoothly locks in the forward position and moves fully backward.

Haas Bar Feeder - Anchor Instructions

1

Turn the rear feet [1] until they are parallel to the bottom rails, as shown.

The front feet [2] must remain perpendicular to the bottom rails, as shown.

2

Use a pen [1] to put a mark on the floor at the location of each foot.

 Note: Turn the feet to the sides of the bar feeder to avoid a tripping hazard.

Drill [2] a Ø 0.50" (13 mm) hole in each mark.

Drill the hole to a depth of 2.0" (51 mm).

3

Put the foot [3] over the hole [4].

Put an anchor [2] into the hole.

Use a hammer [1] to tap the anchor.

Tap the anchor until it is at the bottom of the hole.

Put a washer [6] and a nut [5] on the bolt.

Torque each nut to 55 ft-lb (75 Nm).

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Converting Haas Bar Feeder CHC to NGC


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Introduction

This procedure will show you how to convert a Haas Bar feeder that was configured to run on a Classic Haas Control to a Next Generation Control (NGC). This kit also includes an adapter P/N 33-5712A that will allow you to connect the Haas Bar feeder back to a Classic Haas Control. The installation of this adapter will be covered in the Haas Bar Feeder - Installation - CHC procedure. 

Follow the Haas Bar Feeder NGC - Installation procedure below after converting the Haas Bar Feeder.

Haas Bar Feeder NGC - Installation

This procedure applies to the following kit:

  • 93-3500    CF To NGC Haas Bar Feeder Kit 

CHC Parts Removal

Remove the 32-7464 CBL200 END OF BAR PHOTO SENSOR N.C. photo sensor [1]. 
Note: If the Bar feeder is installed to a Classic Haas Control machine disconnect the cable P/N 32-7464 at I/O PCB P35 and PSUB PCB P13 .

Remove the 25-11030 BRKT BAR MEAS SW BARFEED photo sensor bracket [2].

Remove the 69-1734 N.C. LOAD “Q” proximity switch [4]

Remove the 69-1733 N.O. LOAD BAR proximity switch [5]

Remove the 69-1733 N.O. DOOR SW proximity switch [3].

Remove the 69-1733 N.O. PUSHED OUT proximity switch [6] mounted in lower part of the bar feeder. 

Remove cables p/n 33-2018 and 33-2016 from the bar feeder. 
Note: If the Bar feeder is installed to a Classic Haas Control machine disconnect the cables P/N 33-2016 at I/O PCB P21 and cable p/n 32-2018 at I/O PCB P24 .

NGC Parts Installation

1

Install the end of bar bracket p/n: 25-11030A END OF BAR SW BRKT BARFEED.

Install the end of bar photo sensor p/n: 32-7465 CBL200 END OF BAR SENS 12V.  

Install the proximity switches cable p/n: 32-5715 N.O. PUSHED OUT,  N.O. DOOR SW,  N.C. LOAD “Q” and N.O. LOAD BAR to their correct location.

Insert the cables inside the conduit and follow the same cable routing as the previous configuration.

2

The NGC control uses  parameter 13.78 instead of 415 for the V-axis Tool Change Offset.  The NGC control uses millimeter values for parameter 13.78 V-Axis Tool Change Offset instead of encoder steps.  It is necessary to convert the Classic Haas Control Parameter 415 V-Axis Tool Change Offset value to millimeters.

On the back of the Bar Feeder locate the "Haas Bar Feeder Parameter" decal (29-0987). 

Write down the number listed in the decal for parameter 415. Divide this number by 44390.  Convert the results to millimeter.

Example:  77461 / 44390 = 1.7450

1.7450 x 25.4 = 44.323 (MM)

Remove the old decal and install decal 29-0987A DECAL PARAMETERS HAAS BAR FEEDER.

Use a permanent marker to write down the value of NGC parameter 13.078.  This value will be needed during installation.

Install the Bar Feeder:

  • NGC Lathe,  Refer to Haas Bar Feeder - Installation - NGC
  • CHC Lathe, Refer to Haas Bar Feeder - Installation - CHC 

Servo Motor Cable Upgrade

The Haas Bar feeder servo motor cable has been upgraded to a braided style.  Complete this section only if the Haas Bar Feeder was built before April, 2017 and it will be connected to a NGC machine.

Locate the Servo Motor.

Disconnect the encoder cable [1] from the motor. Disconnect the cable going to the home sensor [3].

Disconnect the Motor power cable [2] from the motor.

Install the updated encoder/home sensor cable p/n: 32-0484.

Install the updated motor power cable p/n: 32-1650.

Note:  The updated motor power cable p/n: 32-1650 will require a ferrite filter p/n: 64-1252 installed at the amplifier side when installing the bar feeder to an NGC Lathe.. 

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